Compare Missouri Wind and Solar vs. Thermdyne Systems Wind Turbines. Which would you buy? DIY
homemadewindturbinesforthehome | Wind Generator For House15 Jun 2012
Comparison of two Wind Generators with surprising results. Missouri Wind and Solar vs. Thermodyne. You decide. www.hydrogenappliances.com
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Someone wrote saying the left unit was damaged. IT IS NOT DAMAGED. I CAN DO THIS WITH ANY ONE OF MY MWS PMA’S, EVEN THE ONE NEVER INSTALLED. GET YOUR DAMNED HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES AND PAY ATTENTION. You, sir, are? a jack ass and another one of Jeff’s stooges. You must know MWS, otherwise you wouldn’t have come up with the statement it was damaged. How can you possibly deny the obvious, idiot.
If? it’s more than 2 years old it’s probably a Thermodyne. If it’s a year and a half old it’s probably a suncoast. He’s bragging he made his own, but all he’s done is piece it together with other makers. I’ll bet he puts one of Jeff’s in there and his tune will change real fast.
Ian admits he is not using a Renegade PMA. His base PMA was made by either Thermodyne or Sun Born Energy, sold years ago by Jeff. Ian also recently added a high amp stator, so what he has now does not resemble anything MWS currently sells. Ian also has a mismatched analog meter and shunt, causing the amps he shows to be far higher than is really? flowing. He refuses to show amps using a clamp-on meter as that would embarass him. Of course, Jeff is using Ian’s “100A” video in his ads. SCAM. Ed
Ian, I’ll save you the embarrassment. If you know so much about it, then tell Jeffy boy. His videos show him blowing paint right into the PMA. There’s about .020 clearence between the armature and the field. If you’re blowing that much paint in there then you are not too bright. If there was that much? paint in there, the cogging would be slightly reduced. Ever have too many pieces of paper under a frige magnet?
You’re obviously blowing hot gas and a member of MW&S Bashing club.
We all can’t be? wrong. But I believe your opinion is not Bias. And they are not made the same. Similar, but only what MW&S supplies has that problem.
Bull. You can’t dispute the video. It’s just a pile you’re? trying to dish out. How do I know the difference? Easy. The TDyne was painted and assembled before I came up with the idea of even doing that video. Your boss has you buffaloed. they may look the same, but they are not. I didn’t shoot the inside of them, but can. Why waist my time. Some one like you will still claim it was phony. The only phoney here is the MW&S leader. There is way too much against him in vids.
both PMA have almost the same stator and magnet? design .?f one of them produce 150watts the will produce 200 at most and everyone knows that you can turn them by your hand , you are big liers.
VIEWERS: Do a search on VyEMImAPxT0 in the search bar. It proves that the POS Renegade PMA? produces 150 watts vs. the Thermodyne PMA which produces 1000w on the same motor-driven test. The number of people ripped-off by MWS is getting rediculous. If you have been ripped-off please file with the BBB and the Missouri Attorney General’s Office, both of which are formally investigating MWS. Thanks. Professor Ed
I want to thank all you viewers of this video. Please take a minute to look at some of my other? videos
Ebay buyer Raptor417 (jeffmolly1) is the proud winner of 18 CHINESE made PMA’s won from ebay seller DMSSGS These PMA’s are ONLY 150 Watts max! at 1800 RPM in his? ads RAPTOR417 says these CHINESE PMA’s are USA made ! Ebay items numbers are – 330676815418, 290653385564, 390379153109, 390380242953, 390379617774, 290655557388, 290654797916, 390384216129, 330673953260 290660308418 390384015188, 330673953260, 290660308418, 390380242953, 390379617774, 290654797916, 390380242953
Now he’s saying I’m not spinning the nut on the? Thermodyne. I dunno, it looks like it’s turning to me. . . I made sure I left it so you could see the nut turn. Jeff must have been to stoned or drunk to see it. Or both
The PMA’s come raw. You need to paint them. I used the paint they recommended.? That blue was a quart I got at the auto paint store, It was a mismatched color so I got it cheap. Jeff said I painted it blue because he told me too. I never recall that going on. We barely spoke, blaming me for being a problem customer. He’s such a pile. The main thinmg is they just do not perform as advertised.
Excellent Video and I? like the green PMA’s from Thermodyne,
The blus PMA has a design flaw in more than one way
JEFF WON SIX MORE to Ebay buyer Raptor417 (jeffmolly1 is the proud winner of 6 CHINESE made PMA’s won from ebay seller DMSSGS on 1-27-12! These PMA’s are capable of putting out a full 150 Watts maximum at 1800 RPM (Jeff of MW&S call’s these his “BASIC MODELS” ? in his ads but they are basically CHINESE! He is passing these crappy PMA’s? off as HIGH powered PMA’s,? scam, scam scam!) Ebay? items numbers are? / 330673953260 / 290660308418 / 390380242953, 390379617774, 290654797916 and 390380242953
Jeffrey would claim the moon is made of cheese, if he could? profit from it, Carl
So…..the? pma’s Jeffrey is buying from (DSMSSGS ebay supplier) are not made correctly? The china factory is shipping over bad products or Jeffrey is ordering his pma’s with bad specs? What a mess, selling to unsuspecting ebay customers. Carl
By the way, Missouri claimed I kicked it and abused it. He said the gen was damaged and it was an unfair comparison. The fact is, it fell off that table with the blades? attached, and that’s what happened to the mount. If it was damaged, it was shipped that way. The rest of the units do the same thing. They’re just harder to do because they aren’t attached. Reality is what you see. I have no intention of falsifying anything, nothing to gain. I disallow MW’s crude statements
He? figures you get it for free so you can waste it. LOL
whoa! what a difference in resistance!
that’s ridiculous! that definitely would classify as? wasted energy.
Jeff does NOT? know about ANGLE PHASING during magnetic creation. The magnets have to be placed in the Magnetizer-Machine at a 20 degree angle 90 degree NORTH orientation. If your not a professional you will never discover it. Jeff has his magnets “MAGNETIZED” at 90 degees from “0″ North center. He is just a visual copy cat artist. Jeff does NOT have a scientific mind so he did not copy Thermodyne’s design correctly. What his eyes can not steel from others like Thermodyne he gets it all WRONG.
Seeing is believeing. Good demo Steve. ? Thanks!
Wow what a difference. The Missouri wind? and solar PMA’s are totally mis-designed.